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laura: this is "bbc world news i'm laura trevelyan and. legal scholars disagree overe whether presidents conduct is impeachable. >> if what we are talking about is not impeachable, then nothing is. >> i'm concerned about lowering impeachment standards -- to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance -- laura: leadersgoeeming tip about president trump on a hot microphone. he takes aim at canada's leader. >> well, he's two-faced. honestly, he's a nice guy, but the truth is that i called him out on the fact that he's not paying 2% and i guess he's not very happy about it. laura: plus, a holiday retail miracle. a small hardware store in the u.k. is winning shoppers that is all heart commercial the globe, welcome to "world
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ws america." we've heard from the politicians, witnesses and the president twitter account. fetoday, law pors testified. a hearing was designed to estaish a standard for whether mr. trump's conduct should mean he should be removed from office. house democrats say the president abused his office to pressure ukraine to investigate the bidensli while repns say he did nothing wrong. we report from capitol hill. reporter:nother historic step in the impeament inquiry as it moves to the judiciary coittee. a new room, a new set of members and witnesses, and the ultimate question -- did president trump
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commit an impeachable offense? for caskey constituternal scholars calle in to give their analysis. three of the professors were emphatic that the president had to be held accountable for putting his persona interest above the nation and its security. >> professor feldman, did president trump commit the impeachable high crime and misdemeanor of abuse of power based on that evidence and thosi fo's? >> based on that evidence, the president did commit an impeachable abe of office. >> professor carlin, same question. >> same answer. >> and professor gerhard? >> we are unanimous. reporter: some of the most direct punches came from the witnesses themselves. >> if what we are talking about his non-impeachable, then nothing is impeachable. reporter: professor pamela carlin criticized the ranking republican on the committee at his suggt in the process had been unfair and devoid of damming evidence. >> i read transcript of every
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one of the witnesses who peared in the live hearing because i would not speak about the facts, so i am insulted by the suggestion that as a law prof i don't care about those facts. reporter: professor jonathan turley, the ly witness called by republicans, disagreed. he says there's not a clear case. >> i'm concerned about lowering impeachment standards to fit a paucity of edence and an abundance of anger. i believe this impeachment not only fails to satisfy the standard of past impeachments, but would create aangerous precedent for future impeachment. reporter: despite legal arguments, this is ultimately a political process. forward with articles of impeachment with a full vote in e house as soon as christmas. if he is impeachis,ate will rest firmly in the hands of his republican allies in the senate. bbc news, capito hill. laura:r john reynaud is a for
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federal prosecutor in washington and i spoke with him earlier. thanks for being with we heard three distinguishs legal scholying it is a case for impeaching the president. jonathan turley among others arguing the case isn't proven. >> i think if anyone wil an honest, objective look at the facts and the process here, i thinit is hard to not come away with it by saying it's a tough call. there vidence that looks really bad for the president. hoecver, the evidentiaryd is not complete. there are key issues here we don't know. these are knowable facts but we have not gotn to that yet. there are real questions about hethe evidence and abouter or not that evidence effectively meets the standard of high crimes and misdemeanors which is outlined in the constitution.
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i think it's fair to say there' a lot yet to be debated here. for those who are automatically right now ready to say this ia slamdunk case, all the evidence is there, this is worse than watergate, this cuts to the heart of our democracy, that' f going way to. it jumps ahead to the point where we may or may not ever get. dura: professor turley made the point thatecauocrats have not called key witnesses who can attewh t the president did or didn't do when it came to withholding military aid, the case is it made. would you agree? >> i would. ifhis was brought in a court , l it would not be proven. it would not be close toth meetg standard that a prosecutor would be required. as a reminder, this is not a court of law, this is an impeachment procedure. congress can set the rule as to what standard of proof they want to meet. that being said, the american
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people are comfortable with our system of justice. if democrats take this so far away from that system and me it so nakedly political, they may get this short-term victory they want whi is an impeachment against the prident, but the likelihood of hi beingemoved or any significant portion of the operation on the fence to such -- to shift their view is almost nonexistent because they are diverting so far from the norms of fairness we are accustomed to. laura: we did hear the three legal scholars this morning say there is a case against the president when it comes an both briberobstruction of justice. do you expect those to be the articles of impeachment? bribery. not see the word i thought it was telling that in the democrats' 300 page report, the word bribery was only used three or four times. it seems like they arelready pivoting away from that to something more nebulous like abuse of power. ihink it will be akin to a necessarily commito that without
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word because that word has a specific legal meaning. as for obstruction of justice, democrats seemetermined to purs that. i think it's a very weak area professor turley outlined. then again, democrats seemed like they really want at least onllary charge to the ebuse of power charge they cooking up laura: when we keep talking about impeachmt being a political process, and the founders, everyone argues about what they mea, but did they want to stop foreign interference in elections? that what this is about >> it definitely seems like that was a core concern about what they had in the 1700s which isat e would be subject to external power from england, france, and the other powers of the world. that was on their mind. i also have to think the idea of bribery or treason was something that was so evident, so explosive their view, that
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they felt that you had a president that was so clearly puttg his or her personal benefit ahead of that of the country, i think that democrats will have a difficult time the facts they have available.n laura: thank you for that analysis 70th anniversary meeting into london without holding a press conference today after a video surfaced showing canada's prime minister seeming to gossip about mr. trump with other leaders. the u.s. president called justi trudeau to f response. also caught on camera was boris johnson, who faces an election next week. this report does contain flashing iges. reporter: heoves to make a big entrans, whether or not he' always completely welcome. donald trump may not always be looking for trouble, but often turns out that way. he needs careful hyodling and ev knows it. that includes his host who is
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fighting a campaign. the >> >> honorable donald trump, president of the united states of america. reporter: the leader of the free ouworld has already fallenof nato allies and straight into the election. he's not a man to take directions. but look, mr. w johns captured last night in on a joke at donald trump's expense with leaders, including president macron of friends andanada's justin trudeau, mocking president trump in some off-the-cuff remarks. britain's pm was pleading ignorance. >>s that'mplete nonsense. i don't know where that's come from. reporter but this was dond trump's verdict on the canadian leader. >> he'res two-faced. rter: he's two-faced, he said, obviously not atll bbc news. laura:ho after on camera
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comments about mr. trudeau, the american predent himself was ught off mic sounding rather pleased with how he handled the situation. >> and then you know what they will say? he didn't do a press conference. press conferenc it'sy funny when i said the is two-faced. laura: for more on not just those undiplomatic spats, but real iues facing nato, i spoke who is now president and ceo of the wilson cenr r. thank you ing with us. nato leaders gossiping and bickering. the organization sufferg a slow brain death? >> i think his comment was directed at actions by turkey. he's very angry about that and i think he should be. at any rate, i would not say it is a brain death.
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i would say it's a brain cell problem. there are serious threats facing europe and the u.s., certainly including terrorism, cyber threats, russian threats,nd chinese investment. that's what no should be focused on him not nasty words between leaders. laura: but nato did agree on a common defense plan for the baltic states, overcoming turkeystion. is that significant? >> it's a bigl. d obviously, the baltic states are tiny andhe russian bear is right next to them. they have suffered massive cyber meltdowns, including -- especially the case of estonia. turkey had threatened to one -- erdogan, had threatened to veto it unless people in the other member states labeled the kurds as terrorists. that did not happen for good reason and erdogan back down.
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laura: nato secretary-general says they need to take china into account more. >> none of us is missing the road initiative, investing and massive amounts of chinese wealth and infrastructure projects, has hit europe big time. a lot of the ports,he newport construction, is financed by the chinese. then there are other related challenges. chinese technology, 5g, which is going to be our communications future ito some substantial extent now being manufacturednd, hardwareoftware, by china. there is a huge risk that china building in backdoors and will be ableo exploit the data. laura: president trump is just the latest american leader to ask nato leaders to spend more on defense, but the fact he's doing it so publicly, is it
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having an effect? >> yes. toe fair, president bush and president obama also made the point ofof 2 gdp spent on nato's budget and so forth, and some states are incrvesing their inment. nato made a gesture to trump by decreasing the u.s. investment in nato's new plant in brussels. good for them, but the point is thathi w the cash register theory of nato has som importance, much more important is the strategy and mission of nato. that's what needs attention. laur to th point, can you have turkey as a nato member when it buys russian milreary hard >> that's an extremely tough the u.s. objected to that sale or purchase by turkey of the russian as 400 air defense system, but turkey went ahead and is now testing the system. when you think about this, it's
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crazy for a nato member to be buying equipme from the country that the equipment that other nato members have is designed to defend against. it's mind-boggling. that is one problem. the other problem is that president trump unilaterally decided that u.s. troops should leave syria at a time when some of our allies were also put kurdish fighters in syria who had been helping usgnn our campgainst isis at grave risk. it is thbiggest issue nato conference. i don't think -- confronts. i don't think it was faced at is 70th anniversary event. laura:h thank you for being w us. mr. trump has f tweetm air force one that he got along great with nato leaders while he in other news, germany has expelled two russian
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diplomats. the victim was a former chechen rehel commander, was shot in head from behind in august. germany says moscow failed to fully cooperate with the iginveion into what prosecutors described as an execution style killing. the kremlin has denied any involvement. french government is to open a aftonal hate crime euro -- bureau come after racist vandals attacked jewish graves. more than 100 headstones were painted with swastikas in a cemetery near strasburg in the talatest racist in france. a surge in this crime has caused in the country which i home to the biggest jewish and muslim communities in europe. china's government has condemned the u.s. house of asrepresentatives forng a bill pressuring beijing over the mass detention of muslims in the west of the country. beijing's prime ministeam says ica is interfering in china's internal affairs. preside senate and trump still need to sign off on the bill before it get -- takes
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effect. here is our china correspondent. reporter: china has long insisted it is building not prisons, but schools. now in response to the u.s. bill, it has issued another angry defense of its policies. >> thiis holy china's internal affair and we want let any foreign country interfere. the u.s. act smears our efforts to counter terrorism. chinese people will see through the hypocrisy and vicious intentions. reporter: but the evidence of coercion and control with watchtowers and barbed wire is now well documente including by the bbc's own investigations. aminside the c, the uighurs and other muslim minorities are
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subjectedo thought control, targeting not so much extremism as almost only -- any expression of faith. after months of international criticism and concer, the u.s. house of representatives has passed a set of measures thatwo d, if they become law, mark the most significant attempt to dateo sure china over the mass incarcerations. it is an attempt that underlines the growing clash of values between the two global powers. >> atrocities such as these can exist in the 21st century is astounding and enormously sad. we cannot be silent. we must demand an end. reporter: the u.s. use to argue that trade and engagement with china would inevitably bring political reform. what's happening in xinjiang is leading up to see things very differently indeed.
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sjo werth, bbc news, beijing. laura: you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come, look who is rapping the christmas gifts. america's first lady meets students in east lonn on the last day of the nato meeting. samoan families who have been vaccinated against measles have been told to hang a red flag outside their homes. there's an out blurry -- outbreak sweeping the country. the government has declared a state of emergen andhe nation will virtually sh down thursday and friday as medical staff go door to door to vaccinate. thousands in the tiny island nation have been infecd with very young children the most at risk. michael bristow reports for us now on this story.
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vreporter: there is acine to prevent the disease measles that killed these children, but versa few in a were inoculated. 60 people have died following an outbreak of the virus over the last few weeks. mostm of tre children under four. there a grieving families across this tiny pacific nation. >> it's very hard to lose a child. i'm sorry. she is gone. i will never forget her. the way i tried to teach her how to talk. reporter: the government has ordered mass vaccination over the next two days. no one will be exet. normal life will be suspended while medical teams go door to door. officials told residents to hang red flags outside their homes so doctors can identify the been vaccinated. not yet to emphasize the severity of the
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heemergency,rime minister and his cabinet showed themselves being inoculated. measles has infected 4000 people out of a populion of just 200,000. in, samoa many residents still put their fth in traditional healers, outbreak is notard to find. a distrust of the measles thccine and too few people protection michael bristow, bbc news. laura: we have been reporting on president trump's meeting with nato allies in london, but he wasn't the only trump in town. milani trump has been to a salvation army center in e t she met children from a nearby school and helped t with gift wrapping. this report contains flash photography.
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reporter: traffic stopped, the road closed. london had a vip visitor. the salvation army in clapton was given just a few days notice that maloney -- melwaania trum visiting. this i perhaps an unusual setting for a visit for an american first lady, but this is safe territory. then christian organizatiod global charity, the salvation army was seen as a good fit for today's event. she ma d christmorations and chatted to the kids and their teachers. the talk was theourney to london and the trump family along with the odd revelation. >> she has never had a mince pie. vereporter: she's had a mince pie? >> i told her you need to try it then. erreportdid she try it? >> she hasn't tried it yet but she will try it tonight. >> if you think about it, you
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are not really ing to get a chance to see her again so u have to kind of keep iin your memory. reporter: the visit of the first lady may have been a little unexpected for the salvation my, but will be a boost for their christmas present appeal. >>ha i think misses trumseen our work in america. also, the home is the u.k. she really wanted to meet chileren. repo the visit ended with a year five class photo, today with a special extra guest squeezed i as this american first lady got a taste of chrimas in the u.k. bbc news, clapton in east london. laura: as mrs. trump may have noticed, christmas ads in the u.k. are not just a tradition, they are high-stakes gambles by retailers to win the hearts and wallets of consumers. th year, a small, family-run
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business in wales is shining rmore brightly than all tt. ♪ errepo it's the time of year when every company wan to sell us that warm, fuzzy feeling. a shop offering drill bits is not the first place you would but this hardware store and mid wales has put itself on the map. the video has already been watched tens of thsands of times after going global. >> the reaction has been incredible. we are totally overwhelmed, the amount of likes, shares, emails from all over the world. people say how much they love it and it puts a smile on their face. re: the star is tom's two-year-old son, arthur. he took just a morning to deliver his role doing jop. around the s >> polish the counter. reporter:ik youpolishing the counter and cleaning the fou --
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the floor? >> yes. reporter: do you think father christma >> you? reporter: while the likes of the big companies hlle spent ns of pounds with focus groups, this shop made its video 0 pounds. this is the third video production made by tom and his friend josh. it mayri not bng millions of shoppers to mid wales, but it is delivering a bit of festive cheer. how wi griffith, bbc news. laura: the absolutely adorable arthur steals the show and indeed,d christmas. ll for 100 quit. think of that. i am laura trevelyan. thank you so much for watching "bbc world news america." narrator: funding for this presentation is made possible by... babbel, an online program designed by language specialists
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